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The Path to Success: Self-Publishing or Traditional Publishing?

1/8/2015

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With the stigma against self-publishing fading and traditional publishers being increasingly unwilling to take a chance on a new book, emerging authors are faced with the question: which route should I take?
There are success stories - and statistics of failures - for both routes, so deciding which route will lead YOU to success may seem like a high stakes crap shoot.

In January I began an experiment. I sent my completed historical fiction novel to my NY agent, Carrie Prostritto, whom I had recently signed with, and I self-published a  science fiction novel. I decided to analyze the results of both routes to publication for timing, personal satisfaction and financial gain. To learn more about how I set up this experiment  read my original post, An Experiment in Publishing.

The early results of this experiment are given in the three posts under the category 'publishing experiment'. It's now been a full year, so here are the comparative advantages and disadvantages of self-publishing and traditional publishing after a year.

TRADITIONAL PUBLISHING MODEL - My agent has received several positive comments about my historical novel, The Sorrow Stone (SS), but no purchase yet. She suggested I write another more typical historical fiction novel, and sell SS as my second book. We discussed a couple of ideas, and I began detailed research on one. I am now writing, and excited about it, while she continues to send out my first novel.

SELF-PUBLISHING MODEL - Meanwhile my self-published science fiction novel, Walls of Wind (WoW), is steadily increasing in sales each month. I am now selling 40+ e-books a month and receiving 4- and 5-star reviews from readers all over the world. In order to build on this base I wrote a second science fiction novel, called The Occasional Diamond Thief. The most exciting development here is that while at I was speaking at a conference (part of marketing WoW) a publisher became interested and bought the print rights to The Occasional Diamond Thief.
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Timing: Still no sale on the traditional route, despite my agent's efforts. And I will be writing another book with no guarantee that it will be published, either. This is not, I believe, reflective of my agent, who is excellent, or my book, which continues to receive favorable comments, but of the current conservative attitude of publishing houses.
As for the self-published route, sales are increasing as I learn more about marketing, and I know my second SF
book, The Occasional Diamond Thief, will be published electronically by me and in print April 15 (Canada) and May 15 (USA).

Personal Satisfaction: Two or three publishers my agent sent SS to let her know they loved the story, or loved my writing style, but their marketing department had reservations - they would like to see something else by me. This makes me feel a bit like a kid in school trying to guess the answer the teacher wants. But working with an agent to determine my next project was satisfying, and I am optimistic that this next one will sell.

As for self-publishing, well it did lead to an offer by a traditional publisher - EDGE Science Fiction and Fantasy Publishing. Although this is the goal of some self-published authors, I find so many aspects of self-publishing satisfying that I chose to retain the e-rights and self-publish the e-book. By doing so I have unintentionally added a third twist to this experiment: the hybrid book, which is jointly self- and traditionally-published. It will be interesting to see whether that is the best route of all.

Financial Gain: While there is a financial gain in selling 40 e-books a month, marketing, especially live marketing such as speaking at conferences and book tours, (which is necessary to stop being an unknown author), more than wipes out any financial gain.  But whatever route you take, you will have to invest in your future if you are serious about writing as a profession. The advantage to self-publishing is that it gives you a book, proof that you have something to speak about when you offer to speak. It's a door-opener now, not a door closer, thanks to those self-published authors who have really made it.

In conclusion, both models have a lot to teach an aspiring author. The years I spent honing my writing and story-telling skills while I was receiving feedback and rejections from agents and traditional publishers made me a better writer. Self-publishing required me to learn all I could about marketing my books - there's no one else to do it for you when you self-publish - so I gained the marketing skills that are, in fact, essential no matter which route you take. And that combination of writing AND marketing skills led to the sale of the print rights of my third book in this experiment. The publisher bought me, not my book: an author who can get 5-star reviews on her self-published book AND who knows something about how to sell the books she writes.

Success? We shall see. I certainly haven't hit the big-time (or even the middle rung on the ladder to success), but I feel like I'm definitely going in the right direction, and I'm much closer to reaching at least moderate success than I would be right now if I was still only following the traditional route. But who knows? My third book, a hybrid outcome of self-publishing, may take off. Or it might not. My next historical fiction, developed with suggestions from my agent in the traditional route, may be the object of a publisher bidding war. Or it might not. We'll have to wait to see which route is successful.

But I can say for sure right now that I am much happier juggling three balls in the air, and far less frustrated, than I was when I was only pursuing the traditional route. And it's likely that success in any route will increase the chance of success in the other routes.
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Reynold Jay link
11/15/2014 08:58:12 am

Hi Jane Ann, I'd like your opinion. I've self published 10 books with similar success. I worked with another beginner author and we did her memoirs of her childhood and it did very well selling 300 books a month for the last two years. The run has had its course and sales are now gone from that one. I've never seen more than rejection slips from agents.
I plan to submit my Children's/Adult illustrated 8 part series, The Wurtherington Diary very soon as we have nearly 5 of the 8 books ready.
Without an agent's /publisher's interest, I plan to release a book every two months. Publication dates would be listed in the back of each book so readers can easily purchase the books as they are released. I plan to do internet ads ( prepublication campaign) with BookBubs and others to kick it off and then continue with that as each book is released. I plan to work entirely with Kindle Amazon as that is what works well for me. Never had any luck with Smashwords.
This is a big project with a staff of artists from around the world.
In the event an agent shows internet, I will not let that person tie up my project like is being done to you. I do want a traditional publisher as I want the books in hardcover available across the globe--something beyond my small staff.
More:
The art and story are a notch better than the competition. Stories are meant to engage adults ( mom reading to her child). Three editions of each book 4-7...8-12...12 -adult. as well as various sketch and parchment editions. I plan to release the first book in Spanish as well.
art may be viewed at http://fineartamerica.com/profiles/reynold-jay.html.
I plan to hire a social internet professional to handle the Twitter, Hubs, Facebook end of the project.
Now if this was your project, what would you do?

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Jane Ann McLachlan
11/15/2014 10:47:12 am

Hi Reynold,
Sounds like an interesting and ambitious project.
The first thing I would do would be to release the e-books more quickly. This helps them rise in Amazon's algorithms, so they are more easily found by customers. I've heard that it's best to release 3-4 at once, then another after one month and a 6th after one more month, and so on. If you have them finished, there is no point in delaying their release, and a definite advantage to not delaying their release.
At the end of each, on the last page, mention not only the publication dates but also the Amazon URL where they can be purchased, either their book page or if they are not up yet, your Amazon Author page where all your books will be published. Also consider bundling them - "buy the whole series and get 30% off the price of buying them individually" kind of thing. If you're going to do this, mention it on the last page of the first book, as your best selling period is immediately after someone has read and enjoyed one book and is still holding it in their hands, be it an e-book or a print book. Finally, make sure to line up reviewers who are willing to write and post a review of each book on the day it goes live. If they are willing to buy the e-book also, all the better, as then their review will be labeled as a "Verified purchase" and their review will have more credit. 30 - 35 reviews will immediately put it in a good category in Amazon's algorithms. I suggest you read my blog posts during the month of September, on marketing books and e-books, if you haven't already. (In another month I'm going to take them down and expand them into an e-book on book marketing).
As for finding a publisher - that's tough, and all I can say is the best way to do this is to attend conferences that offer pitch sessions on the type of books you write. Offering to speak at the conferences is even better.
However, if you can't find a publisher, CreateSpace can still get your books into Ingrams which will get them into book stores: look into this.
300 books a month for two years is pretty amazing, by the way.I'm not sure why those sales have to stop, or be "gone" as you put it, unless you have given up on promoting it.
Best of luck with your project!

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Reynold Jay link
11/15/2014 11:20:35 am

That sounds like the voice of your experience in the business to me, I suspect I may vey well use your model. Thank you

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Jane Ann McLachlan
11/15/2014 10:40:24 pm

You're welcome, Reynold. That's just my response to your question, what would I do if it was my project? Use what you think will work for you and ignore the rest. Best of luck! Let me know how it goes!

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Mark Terence Chapman link
11/16/2014 06:28:34 am

Hi, Jane. I have followed somewhat the same path as you, but with different results.

In 2007, I sold my first two novels to a startup publisher. Both books were published that year, but the publisher went belly-up within 7 months. I then sold my third novel to a small (but established) publisher in 2009 and it was published later that year.

I sold fewer than 100 copies of the first two books combined, and about the same number of the third book from 2009-2014, before that publisher also failed. After countless hours of promoting from 2007-2010 I finally had enough and gave up. It wasn't worth it for the piddling royalties I received.

Along the way, I tried using agents to find a large traditional publisher, but with no luck.

Then, this year I heard about Amazon's Kindle Direct Publishing (KDP) program and decided to try it out. My first novel was republished in mid-July, and my second in early August. Sales trickled in, but increased bit by bit.
Then, in mid-August, I released my fourth, previously unpublished, novel (My Other Car is a Spaceship). It sold 10 copies the first day, increased to 23 copies three days later, and after a week or so, it had broken into the Top 100 list of Military Sci-Fi bestsellers. After that, it took off. Two weeks later, it was the #1 bestseller on the Military Sci-Fi list (plus #2, #3, and #4 in other subgenres). After a month, it was selling 250-450 copies a day. The sales were quite brisk until about two weeks ago.

They've dropped off quite a bit (roughly 50 copies a day now), but that one book has sold over 10,500 copies and was the 51st best-selling title of all kinds (fiction and nonfiction) in the KDP program for September. (I haven't yet heard where it ranked for October.)

Meanwhile, I retrieved the rights to my third novel from that second publisher and published it in late September.

Although the other three books aren't selling as well as My Other Car, between them they have sold almost 2500 copies as ebooks. That's more than 13,000 total ebooks since, basically, August. Not too shabby for an unknown self-published author

Now, I'm working with a voice actor on an audiobook version of My Other Car. It should be out in early December, through Amazon, iTunes, and Audible.com. With any luck, it will also be a bestseller.

All those ebook sales have been through Amazon only. Now, I'm also looking into publishing via Smashwords, which would offer entry into Barnes & Noble, iBooks, Kobo, and other sites.

Fingers crossed, 2015 could be a great year. :)

Good luck with your endeavors, Jane!

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Reynold Jay link
11/16/2014 06:48:08 am

Hi Mark, I read your comment with great interest. You have done well and congratulations! Like you Kindle has been kind to me and then Smashwords was dead in the water for me. While I was doing terrific sales at Kindle with ebooks (like you) the same books did nothing with Smashwords. I have abandoned Smashwords entirely now. I will bet those audio books do well for you.

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Mark Terence Chapman link
11/16/2014 06:55:11 am

That news about Smashwords is discouraging. I'll have to sacrifice almost half of my book sales on Amazon (via the Kindle Unlimited and Amazon Prime programs) to go "nonexclusive" and publish with Smashwords. I was hoping to have a reasonable amount of success there with My Other Car. I guess I'll see what happens for a month or so. I can always drop SW and go back to an exclusive arrangement with Amazon, if that works out better. We'll see. <shrug>

reynold jay link
11/16/2014 07:23:08 am

I would not want to discourage you from trying Smashwords as I imagine not everyone will have the same experience. It is good to give warning and be ready to pull out when you see it is not working. Hopefully you will do much better! Nice thing at Smashwords is you can pull the plug at the click of a button and go back to enjoying Kindle benefits. RJ

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Jane Ann McLachlan
11/16/2014 10:20:21 pm

Thanks for sharing your experience, Mark. That's very interesting. It confirms my decision to keep the e-rights to The Occasional Diamond Thief, while selling the print rights.
I wonder, if my historical fiction does sell to a large US publisher, how that will compare.

Your experience in having one book really take off is not singular. Hugh Howey was in the same spot - decent sales - until Wool suddenly took off. There's no telling why one well-written book will grab huge attention and the others will just do okay, but it does seem more likely to happen on Amazon.

Congratulations on your success - it's no mean achievement, Good luck with the next one.

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Liz Broomfield link
11/17/2014 04:20:39 pm

How fascinating and how useful to have both experiences to provide a contrast - thank you for doing that.

I have found Smashwords OK for me, although I sell more on iBooks THROUGH Smashwords than I do on Smashwords direct - it is worth looking through at those breakdown figures they provide. And once I realised I hadn't ticked something that released the payments to me, I was fine. I think I'm about even on the non-exclusive thing, plus I do like to give my readers choice.

I'm going to be exploring some of those PDF-hosting sites soon to see if selling direct is also a good option ... I'll report back on my blog at some point, I'm sure.

Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - it's great to have theory but there's nothing like finding out exactly what actually happened, is there!

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Jane Ann McLachlan
11/18/2014 05:27:04 am

Thanks for your comment, Liz. I like the idea of giving my readers a choice, too - but it's a lot of work uploading and tracking multiple sites just to "break even" - and every sale elsewhere detracts from your rise in Amazon's algorithm. Well, not every sale, because some people won't buy if Amazon's the only choice - they don't have kindles. But most sales elsewhere might otherwise be Amazon sales.
Frankly, it comes down to, I'm so busy marketing on Amazon without detracting too much from my actual writing, that I can't really face also going onto B&N, Kobo, etc

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Mark Terence Chapman link
11/19/2014 03:53:25 am

>>>>some people won't buy if Amazon's the only choice - they don't have kindles.

Jane, you're hurting your own sales by letting this mistaken belief go unchecked. Amazon offers a *free Kindle reader app* for Windows, Android, and Apple OSX. It runs great on my Samsung phone and tablet, as well as my PC. The app can be downloaded directly from the book page on Amazon. Look for:

"Free Kindle Reading App
Anybody can read Kindle books—even without a Kindle device—with the FREE Kindle app for smartphones, tablets and computers.
To get the free app, enter your email address or mobile phone number."

It's a couple of inches below the book title, dead center, on the sales page. Hard to miss. :)

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Jane Ann McLachlan
11/19/2014 08:54:44 am

Hi Mark,
Yes, I know. I read Kindle books on my tablet, too, because I don't have a Kindle e-reader. I'm not talking about myself, but some readers will stick to the device they have, such as a Kobo. Those sales you may lose by being only on Amazon.

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Mark Terence Chapman link
11/19/2014 12:37:48 pm

Sure. That's why I signed up with Smashwords, but I'm losing Kindle Unlimited/KOLL sales by doing so. I have to hope that Kobo, B&N, et al., will more than make up for it, otherwise it's a waste of time and effort. We'll see what happens.

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Mark Terence Chapman link
11/22/2014 02:32:49 am

Interesting.y, I just read yesterday that KU sales are dropping across the board for all authors, so maybe I'm not losing as many sales as I expected by puling out of Kindle Select. Can't say my preorders on Smashwords are doing all that well after a week. (13 sample downloads, no purchases yet). But it's early. I'm not sure how many of the retailers even have the book in their catalogs yet. And as I found with Amazon preorders, most customers seem to wait until the last few days before shipment to order. The book won't be released for another 13 days on SW, so we'll see what happens closer to release day. Right now it's more about exposure than sales.

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Jane Ann McLachlan
11/22/2014 03:04:39 am

That is interesting Mark. Keep us informed as to how you do closer to deadline. My e-book is on pre-order now, too, so we will see if it, too, gathers sales the last week.
Great sharing our experiences!

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Web Development India link
12/4/2014 02:32:37 pm

I would like to thank you for your nicely written post, its informative and your writing style encouraged me to read it till end. Thanks

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Mark Terence Chapman link
12/6/2014 01:01:17 pm

Well, my book (My Other Car is a Spaceship) went live yesterday on Smashwords and other sies. It has had 33 sample downloads so far on Smashwords, and one sale. Not very impressive yet, but who knows how many more of those downloads will turn into sales.

Meanwhile, the ebook on Amazon has sold over 11,000 copies. The audiobook will be out any day now via Amazon., Audible, and iTunes. I have high hopes for the audiobook, given the sales of the ebook. :)

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Jane Ann McLachlan
12/6/2014 02:04:56 pm

11,000 copies. That is indeed quite an accomplishment. Is there any one (or two) things you attribute that to, Mark, aside from obviously having written an excellent novel?
Keep us posted on your audiobook and Smashwords.
Reynold, how is your project coming? Did you try BookBub yet? What were the results?

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Mark Terence Chapman link
12/8/2014 12:57:01 am

Thanks, Jane. Honestly, I think it's the whimsical title and the premise of being drafted to fight space pirates that grabbed the attention of readers. A great cover doesn't hurt, but the book sold really well for the two weeks before I commissioned the new (much better) cover.

My other three novels all have higher reader ratings, but sell many fewer copies. (My Other Car is a Spaceship is 78% of my total sales.) So, clearly, the ratings don't have a huge impact on sales. My highest-rated book (4.7 stars) has the fewest sales. Go figure.

The other novels have less whimsical titles. I'm thinking of naming my next novel "Earth Dies Screaming!" regardless of the subject, just for the "curb appeal" of the title. LOL!

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reynold jay link
12/7/2014 02:03:47 am

Yep--11,000 at Amazon, Mark and zip at Smashwords. Not a surprise from me on that. I'm a long way from approaching anyone, Jane Ann on any of the promotional aspects of the upcoming 8 part series. I do plan to approach the New York agents ( and others) with the project in 1-2 months and then, if no response, I'll begin making promotion plans which will include hiring a small staff to implement it. I hope that Book Bub takes my project as it will set everything in the proper direction. Thank you, Jane Ann for your encouragement.

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Mark Terence Chapman link
12/9/2014 05:15:45 am

Interesting development. From reading the Smashwords Ts&Cs I understood that books will be sold through Apple iBooks. So I searched for my book at apple.com on 12/5 (when it appeared on all the other Smashwords affilliates' sites). I went to http://apple.com/ibooks and found nothing. After three days of nothing, I contacted Smashwords to find out if there was a problem.

I heard back today that the book is in fact available from Apple, but via iTunes, not iBooks. That's a bit confusing, but he sent me the link, so it's definitely there. I asked whether it will also be available from the iBooks page, but I haven't heard back yet.

Also, a search on my name or the book title yields no hits on any of the pages where I tried (apple.com, iBooks or iTunes). Very strange.

Even if someone is looking for me or my book(s), I don't see how they could find me/them.

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Jane Ann McLachlan
12/9/2014 07:30:13 am

They don't seem to have their act together. What about B&N, Kobo, etc? Have they put you visibly there (as opposed to invisibly there, like Apple?)

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Mark Terence Chapman link
12/10/2014 06:56:28 am

OK, further clarification. iBooks isn't s website, it's an app for Apple devices. Customers use iBooks to locate books to read on Apple phones, tablets, computers, etc. Using iBooks, my books can be found by searching for my name or the title, so it's not really "hidden" if you have the app.

Apparently the app comes with Apple devices. (My daughter verified that it's on her iPhone.)

The book was released to all Smashwords affiliates on 12/5 (except Amazon, which seems to be dragging its feet. But that's fine by me, because I'm already on Amazon. So I opted out of having Smashwords also sell through Amazon.)

I don't know whether Smashwords or the other retailers have done any sort of "New titles/authors" listings with my book, but so far I've sold one copy through SW and at least one through B&N (which I only know because the book has a ranking of #339,008). None of the other sites show a ranking, so I presume that means no sales yet.

It's not very encouraging. The day the book appeared on Amazon, it sold 2 copies in the first 15 minutes and 10 that day, growing to 23 on the 5th day, and then to hundreds within a few more days.

Oops. Maybe I spoke too soon, On Kobo, the book rankings are:
#1238 in Sci Fi & Fantasy, High Tech
#1744 in Sci Fi & Fantasy, Space Opera

So at least one copy has sold there.

Oyster and Scribd are subscription sites (somewhat like KU), so they may not show rankings.

And then there are the library distributors. I don't even think there's way to look up a book ranking there, unless you're a library employee, and maybe not even then. Certainly not by a member of the public.

I guess I'll just have to wait until the quarterly statement to find out who has sold what. It's nowhere near as transparent as Amazon. Plus Amazon pays royalties about two months and a week after each month. Smashwords pays a month or so after each quarter. So payments are three months apart, rather than monthly (after the first two months) at Amazon.

I don't mind waiting months to get a large royalty payment, but it would just be sad to wait four months to get a $12 check. Oh, and unless I missed something, SW only pays by check or PayPal. Amazon allows direct deposit, so the money gets to us faster and with less hassle that way.

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Jane Ann McLachlan
12/10/2014 07:48:51 am

Interesting. I think I'll stay just on Amazon, as I continue to earn money thru lending daily as well as through sales. Have you noticed your sales on Amazon changing markedly now you're out on Koll? Will people buy if they can't borrow, or will the borrowers just borrow something else. My guess is the latter.

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Mark Terence Chapman link
12/12/2014 07:52:21 am

Jane, dropping exclusivity means no Kindle Unlimited sales, but Amazon Prime sales and Kindle Online Lending Library royalties are still in play.

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Stock Tips link
2/9/2015 02:17:11 pm

you have published great post with the stigma against self-publishing fading and traditional publishers being increasingly unwilling to take a chance on a new book .

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Elissa Field link
4/12/2015 03:24:31 pm

Jane Ann, Thanks so much for sharing this link in our blog hop. I had missed this post earlier, and it is so insightful to read how your experiences have played out. I have a bit of a hybrid mindset myself. I plan to try for traditional publishing with the novel I'm working on, but have held out the idea of self publishing nonfiction. I think we all have learned to see that traditional publishing might work for some books, but the direct nature of self publishing creates accessibility for others. Great to read about your work.

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Jane Ann McLachlan
4/12/2015 03:34:09 pm

Thanks Elissa.
Happy WSS Homecoming!

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Michelle Pond link
4/13/2015 03:02:56 am

Thank you for sharing this post. I really like your concluding thought that success in one area is likely to lead to success in others.

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Romelle Broas link
4/14/2015 02:09:38 pm

If it weren't for the WSS anniversary blog hop, I wouldn't have run into your blog, Jane! I enjoyed reading your publishing experiment. Your success is dependent on your marketing, for sure. I was most intrigued by the fact that your self published book got the attention of a publisher. Congratulations!

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